Ask The Tarot: I’m in My Empress Era — Does My New Partner Threaten This Abundance?

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Michelle Tea: Hey, you guys. It is Michelle Tea your host. Welcome to another round of ask the Tarot Live. I am your resident tarot reader tonight. If you want your cards read, all you have to do is raise your hand here in the room and you'll go into this sort of like stack. Right. And I'll get to as many of you as I can. Another way that I take questions from folks is if you go over to my Instagram, you can find me @michelleteas, T-E-A-Z. I am verified, accept no imitations. There aren't imitations out there. So make sure that you're following a verified account with the blue check and you can send me your questions there and I'll get to those eventually also. Hello lovelies in Victoria. I'm so excited to be here again. Happy New Moon and Leo. I'm so into it. I love New Moon. I have a Sagittarius stellium, which means I really like new newness, new beginnings, fresh starts, you know, that kind of energy. I'm so into it and we have such a big one of those right now with the new moon. So I really urge all of you to after this, you know, sometime tonight, play with your tarot card, go to the discord. Thank you, Victoria, for throwing that up there. That's so sweet of you going out on the discord and like, share your new moon wishes with each other. Set your intentions. It's a great day for setting intentions. All right. So, you know, we do this every single Thursday night, 6:00 on the West Coast, 9:00 on the East Coast. If you like listening to this, you can go over to Spotify, search for your magic. That's my podcast. And in that same feed, you'll find all the back episodes of Ask the Tarot, which is so fun. I really want to say hi to all the new members that are here checking it out for the first time. And of course, hello to all of like the alumni who like make my life worth living. Thank you for being here again. I had one more thing to say. Oh, yes. If you are listening on Spotify and you want to participate, you want to be in this chat, which gets pretty bangin, just like hop on over to Spotify, live and find us. Excellent. Ovaltine, you are here for the first time. Wonderful. I'm so I'm so siked. Welcome. Okay, so I'm going to start with this little question that's like it's not like an advice question. It's like a question about tarot. Somebody wrote, 'when I was first thinking about getting into tarot, I read that Rider-Waite is the most common and therefore the most beginner friendly deck to start with. I'm so curious why you prefer the Thoth deck over the Rider-Waite deck.' I think that what you have heard is true. The Rider-Waite deck is the most popular worldwide and it's a great deck to start with. I mean, you know, if you master that deck, there are so many other decks that derive from that deck that you'll be immediately familiar with, which is really cool. You know, the Thoth deck and the Rider-Waite, I kind of got them both around the same time when I was like 15 years old and the art I'd seen images of the Rider-Waite deck for a while. I was kind of familiar with the vibe, I guess, but the Thoth deck just struck me as so different and new and intense. And I like, I liked all of that. I liked them. It was a little more mysterious with all the astrological glyphs, and I just was really attracted to all of that. I liked that even though, you know, the the minor arcana are just, you know, the six of cups is six cups, right? The five of wands is five wands. It's not a scene being played out the way the rider-waite is usually. I don't love that in a deck, but I really love how the art in the top deck really shows you. Even though it's just showing six cups, you can see what kind of a card that is right away. And also all of the cards are named. They're given like one name that sort of sums up their energy. And as a beginner, I really liked that. It was like the little cliff note was right there on the card. So that's why I like it. But you know, the best deck to get is the one that you really are inspired by. There's no right or wrong deck, so. Yeah. Oh, serious here. I love the aura. All right, cool. So I just wanted to answer that little question. I love a tarot question. Now I'm going to see who has their hands up. And I'm going to say, Jessica, you are up. How can I help you?

Querent: Oh, my gosh. Hi, Michelle.

Michelle Tea: Hi, Jessica. How are you?

Querent: I'm. I'm amazing. Happy New Moon in Leo. We talked last year in December right before I was interviewing for an internship that I had. And then I went to Europe.

Michelle Tea: Oh, my gosh. Okay.

Querent: It was six months ago, and it's been. Oh, my God, it's been a crazy, wild trip. I went to Europe. It was amazing. It was magical. I learned about textile techniques. I got the job offer. Offer. I'm. The new city right now got about, but we got like two weeks left. I was you were like you were like, this is going to be a wild ride. And it's been like, I've had to move three times already this summer, like, but I knew that going into the summer because of the way the internship is structured and I wasn't even on a team, I was on a home team, so I was learning about home decor and it's been such an incredible learning experience. I think you mentioned was one of the last cards in my reading that day was the Empress and we're hitting the new moon in Leo and I'm a Capricorn, and I saw your Instagram post about how the day that this internship is going to end on that day, my, my sign is going to go into the Empress Card and I am I am shaking. I am so excited because I think this is going to be like the next chapter of my life and I'm going to move from like officially moved to the city that I've been manifesting since 2019. 

Michelle Tea: You are going to have like so much energy and emotion. Congratulations on making it through another cycle. What would you like to ask tonight?

Querent: I if I don't want to ask about my manifestation, because at this point, like it's just so big and powerful that like, I don't even have to. I don't even like you all. You already can tell from how my voice is shaking like that's going to come, but I want a love vibe check. I have been working in like working on my career and focusing on my career and my spirituality for like so long. And I'm scared about love because this is going to be a real big change. I'm a Capricorn son. I'm a Virgo moon, I'm a Pisces Rising. And I'm I'm so lonely, polyamorous. And this first this next chapter of my life is going to be like like this was like the prequel, but this is going to be like the whole, like first chapter. I was like me living my solo polyamorous dream and like, being able to find my own studio apartment and live by myself and, like, love and romance myself. I love.

Michelle Tea: This. Yeah. So this is like a dream. So I feel like the Empress. I feel like the Empress is so low poly, right? Like, let's. Be real.That's what. That's her jam. That's what I think. All right. Let's see, as you sort of, like, get closer to being grounded in the space that you want to be grounded and you'll be ready to sort of open up more to romantic vibes. And we've got this great intention.

Querent: So I have a little bit more context just in terms of like my current partners on partner. I have a wonderful, beautiful girlfriend who is who is a like I'm a pastel human being and she is my she is my goth girlfriend. And I.

Michelle Tea: Oh my God you're killing me. I love this so much.

Querent: She's a romantic partner. Our our sexual dynamics has been in an interesting shift with all of these transitions. We literally started dating in December, like at the beginning of the new year. So that was like it's still a young relationship, but like I believe it's very strong and loving. And she's also a lovely human being. I'm not I, I know there's kind of this, like, longing and urge for someone else in my life. I started meeting and talking with someone in this new city, but it's like, right with all the Roe v Wade stuff, our our collision, it's just like our our connection kind of turned into a collision in a way. And like, my, my girlfriend met this person for the first time, and it was just like a really intense experience. And I was like, come into this Empress energy. I, I'm not sure that it's like a good energy for me to have in my life. So I'd love to get a vibe on that.

Michelle Tea: Because you want a vibe check on this second person's, okay, what is it like? Okay, so I'm going to ask the project now. What does it look like if you you continue to kind of like put energy towards this person, walk towards this person, yeah, yeah. And be a part of your life. What is.

Querent: That? I've been I've been on a standstill with them for like weeks now. So I'm I'm not I and sometimes I'll like it, but I am not reaching out and texting because I am focusing on like having my manifestation come to life. And like, I'm just worried that they're going to be this like, nuts person. Like once my manifestation comes to like, they're gonna be like, Oh, well, I'm back now because you're going to permanently be here, and I can give you the attention you deserve. But I've been surviving and, like, living a good life without their attention and affection. Yeah.

Michelle Tea: Well, of course, of course. And we all can live quite happily, you know, I think without the attention or affection of whomever. Right. But like. But like sometimes we like that. Actually, I don't know, I. I don't know what the what the vibe is like. You were talking about you reference Roe v Wade. So like, I hope this is not like a toxic person in any way.

Querent: You know, I have a I have a past trauma. And I at this point, I'm very clear. And I just I'm not with any cis men. But like that whole thing brought up like brought up my trauma and actually processing it because I hadn't because I just like, like 2018 is when I had my abortion and then I was just in school mode since then.

Michelle Tea: So yeah. Okay. Thank you for sharing that. That's so vulnerable of you. And I really appreciate it. And I have so much like love and respect for people sharing their abortions right now. It's so powerful and important and no one needs to do it. And for you and everyone who does, it means a lot. So thank you for doing that. Thank you for sharing that. You know, it looks like you do have some kind of great energy with this person. The centerpiece card is the magician. I think, you know, the magician is such a card for manifestation. And you, you know, you are like manifestation station right now. Like that's your whole thing. So it's interesting that that card comes up. I'm I don't think that they're going to interfere with you manifesting. You know, I really don't the next clue you have the night of sorts here also and he's just like really focused and really going forward. And then on this other side, you have the peace card, which is the moon in Libra and peace of mind. So that's really interesting. I think that I don't think this person's going to interfere with your vibe. I think that they might really love that you are such such a creator, such a manifest or like. I don't think they're going to want to get in the way of that, thankfully. And I think that I'm interested in that peace card, that two of swords coming up. I think that, you know, as more gets revealed, I think that you will actually have some peace of mind around this. Like, I don't think, you know, whatever your uncertainty is about it, I think it will be okay. But this seems like maybe a person that's also doing their own thing and, you know, they're not going to try and stop you from doing your own thing. And maybe I don't know, maybe you do things together. I don't know. I also pick cards for like, what if you actually are like, back off? No. And it's you just like you said, I have been fine without affection and attention from this person, and I will continue to be fine. And that is true. And that is like all that earth that you have speaking, right? Because the issue that came up for you sort of living in that perspective is the harassment, right? You're like, I'm sorry, I'm the fucking fucking that. I'm like doing my education and like, I don't need this. And then you got the, the six of disks, which is success, earthly success. So you're totally right. But no, what other card you got is the nine of swords? It is like a little bit about anxiety. Do I think it's gonna make you anxious not to be with this person? No, but I think you might be a little haunted as. As time goes on, I think you might feel a little bit like, wow, maybe I was a little rash, maybe I didn't really explore things. Maybe I did let, you know the state that I was in in a certain time and place, understandably. But maybe I let that impact this other thing. Does that make sense?

Querent: Yes. Just with all of that. This person in particular, one of the phrases they say that like resonated with me after we started talking was to protect your peace. And like, I guess I'm just going to keep that in perspective and like continue to have, like, like for me, like I'm coming up to like the end of like my first major life like looking for long term goals and like putting those in place. And so like as that this cycle is closing out, I guess I have to make the room in my mind for like long term goals in a, in a romantic sense too, because I've never done that. But I think like, like, you know.

Michelle Tea: You know what, can't I just picture you with that look like what does it look like if you start making long term relationship goals, the universe. You're absolutely right. It's totally time for you to do that. Yeah, portals are open for that.

Querent: Yeah. Wow. That's why it is wild.

Michelle Tea: Jessica, we like you're out here. We're like, we're all going to pictures on of you, like, above our, like, desks and altars. Thank you. We're living such a great life and, like, sharing it with all of us.

Querent: Thank you so much. And if any of you all want to see my work, my website is Jessie Moon Heart dot com and I'm in the discord so say hi to me.

Michelle Tea: Yes we do want to see your art Jesse Moon.

Querent: I'll put it in the comment discussion. Thank you guys so much.

Michelle Tea: So. Welcome, Jessica. Bye bye.

Querent: Have a nice one.

Michelle Tea: Oh, my God. I love that. I love hearing updates from people. I love when people are just, like, manifesting, like, freak and crazy. It's so exciting as I feel, like, energized from that. All right, let's see. Who else do we got here? Alissa, you are like like, where are you? There you are. Okay, Alissa, you are now up.

Querent: Oh, my goodness. Hi, Michelle.

Michelle Tea: How are you?

Querent: I'm doing good. It's really good to connect with you right now.

Michelle Tea: Great. Thanks for raising your hands.

Querent: Oh, my goodness. I have so many questions. Okay. The main question that I'm kind of thinking about is sort of an either or. Um, so. Gosh. Okay. So it is a work related. I am. I'm just feeling a little lost right now. I'm really something that I've been thinking about a lot is going back to school or getting a degree in my field and just kind of following that path and see how that kind of plays out for me in terms of like a career ends, finding financial stability, which is something I'm still struggling with or what it might look like if I were to kind of continue doing what I'm doing now and maybe focus more on entrepreneurship and skill building on my own. Okay.

Michelle Tea: All right. Well, I've already shuffled and picked three cards for about going back to school in your field.

Querent: Okay.

Michelle Tea: Shuffling something. What does it look like if you don't do that and you just keep on doing what you're doing and building upon that and, you know, doing work around entrepreneurial shop and skill building outside of school so what does that look like? All right, so. School. About school is really good and. Yeah, oh, my gosh, I think you ought to go to school at the Y or at least the charity things that the very first card you have is the chariot. And the chariot is so great for something like that. Like, if you're like, should I do this thing that's like, really like, you know, famously hard, but like classically a great thing to do. And it's like the chariot is like, yes, here's your armor, here's your bowl of blood. That's your sacrifices that you'll have to make to be able to pull this off. But like your victory is assured on the road of destiny. So it's a great card, the chariot. It really looks like it's the chariot of war. You know, it's not like it's going to be, like, super easy. It looks like there's some sort of you're going to have to stay really focused. You're going to have to make whatever sacrifices that you need to sacrifice to fit this into your life. But that's a powerful card. It's major arcana, and it's followed immediately by the three of wands virtue. And you guys know I love this card so much in the top deck, especially, it feels like a miniature universe card because it's about taking yeah, it's about taking your energy, your passion, your life energy and putting it all in the right direction. It's like a big high five from the universe. It's like it's a very big yes card. It's beautiful. It's called virtue. So I love that your last card is the Queen of Swords. And she's interesting for a couple of reasons. You know, swords are air rules, school and learning and education. So in a sense, it's like it's very intellectual and it's sort of you mastering whatever it is that you need to master, like intellectually to like do well. But it's also, you know, she especially in this deck, she's up on this throne of cloud. She has her sword drawn and she's like cutting people's heads off. Pretty grisly. But the idea is that she has this, you know, distance from her life and she's able to see what needs to go. So I think it's also saying, like, what would be great for you to be able to really pull this off? The best you possibly can would be to take some distance from your life, like detach a little bit, look at the big picture and like what can you eliminate to really make room for this and to really. Yeah. To optimize your time and your energy. Now the cards for not going back to school and doing it on your own. The first card you have is the four of disks, which is a really strong card. It's, you know, sun in Capricorn and you know, Capricorn is the business goat. So I love cards. You are. Oh my God. So it's a Capricorn. Course. You can do it, you know, it's like it's it's stable. It's about stability. It's really powerful. But then your next card is the five of swords, which has the very harsh title of defeat in this deck. I think you'll be defeated. Your card on the other side is the ace of cups. You will, you know, whatever that hardship is, you will find a way to, like, bounce back from it and, like, refresh yourself. But, you know, we're looking for what's the more attractive path here, right? What's the we're looking for yeses and nos from the tarot. That's what we ask. And we got a lot of yeses, you going to school. And it just doesn't look as strong to not go to school now.

Querent: Okay. Well, okay. I really appreciate that. I'm I'm kind of a serial puller. I talked to the Tarot a lot and I use the Thoth deck and I pulled all of those cards actually when asking this question over and over, because I see these pictures and I'm like, is the queen of Swords happy? Like, I don't know. I like sometimes. You think there's a noise?

Michelle Tea: She's not happy. But here's the thing about the Queen of Swords. She's wise and she possesses a certain type of philosophical wisdom where it's like it's not always about being happy, like, you know what I mean? It's like happiness. Yeah, we all want it. We're always pursuing it. But sometimes there are other factors that come up and it's like in order to get there, you know what I mean? It's like, will you be happier in the long run if you're a little less happy in the short run? So, you know, or does it bring your life more meaning and help you fulfill your goals to take this Queen of Swords path, even if it's not necessarily the funner path?

Querent: Well, yeah. Oh, thank you, Michele. I really appreciate it.

Michelle Tea: Good luck to you.

Querent: Thank you. 

Michelle Tea: Oh, man, it can be hard to read your own cards, right? I mean, I know a lot of you guys send me messages and you're like, I pick these cards, but I'm confused. And just so you know, I'll probably never answer those because it feels like it's hard. It's hard for me, just, like, getting like. I mean, the cards aren't in front of me. I can't. I didn't. I didn't pick them. It's not like, you know, I mean, it's just it's confusing for me. So I don't really address those kinds. But if you want a second opinion, you want to get, you know, write me a little note or raise your hand. I'll always, you know, give you what I think. I'll give you a fresh read. Right. And that's what happened with this this this quant who contacted me at Instagram. They wrote me this whole it's it's a little long, but it's like really good, so I'm going to read it. But they also included the tarot reading they had done for themselves. And I just deleted it cause I'm like, I don't even want to know. I don't even want to know about your old tarot readings. I want to be fresh here. I want to, like, get some fresh energy. So here's here's here goes. Okay. 'Last week, my best friend Kevin was visiting from New York, and we decided to go to karaoke night. Like how we always did when he lived here.' Oh, my God. I fucking love a good karaoke night. 'I normally have a really good intuition and something was telling me to skip out on the night. Kevin also wasn't feeling it, but we decided to go anyways. As I was getting ready, I was talking to my friend Britney on the phone about my anxious attachment style and my healing process through the course of the year and a half since my breakup with my most recent ex.' All right, good job. 'Before my most recent ex of seven months, I was in a six year relationship and have been alone since my last relationship, trying to heal, explore and move on.' That's a good plan. Okay. That night at karaoke, I saw my ex of seven months at the bar. We locked eyes with each other a few times and she gave me a hug. After Kevin finished singing his song, we left the bar and I began to cry because this is someone I hold immense love and care for still. And seeing her triggered those memories, I hold a lot of guilt and shame still because I feel like our relationship could have worked out if it wasn't for the anxiety I held around the pandemic, graduating and not having a job and my physical and mental health being shit.' Oh, my God, you're being very hard on yourself. You know, sometimes. Sometimes we just have to, like, focus on ourselves, you know what I mean? And, like, take care of number one and not not even fuck with another person. Just, like, make yourself your own number one. It sounds like there's nothing wrong with that. If that's what ended up having to happen, that's great. Like you've got to be your own number one, you know? Okay, I'm going to keep going here. 'A lot of the blame was thrown on me and I've been beating myself up over it through therapy for the past year.' Hold on, red flag. You should not be beating yourself up in therapy for a year. Okay. I really hope that your therapist, you know, throws a wrench into that beating up machine that you have going here. You know, like the only point of therapy is self-love itself. Understanding, right? Okay, good. All right. Proceeding 'at some point, I reached I reached the conclusion that it takes two and and I'm angry with myself. She messaged me two nights later, apologizing if she may have seemed standoffish and just wasn't expecting to see me. And it caused her extreme anxiety.' God, it sounds like you guys were both in, like, some sort of anxiety k-holes. You guys launched each other into anxiety holes. I hope that that makes you able to have compassion for both of you and yourself. Okay. 'I validated her feeling and reassured her it didn't come off as rude and that I would like to see her again over coffee. But she declined considering how anxious she got and isn't ready to see me. A part of me feels like she always lacks the bravery it takes when loving someone to deal with the difficult situations that arise in any relationship.' That's a little red flag. You to me. I'm going to let it slide for now. I mean, no, I can't I can't let it slide because I'm too opinionated, you know, that just that's a that's a very powerful statement. You know, it's like on the one hand, I'm like, yeah, we do need to show up for folks, right, that we're involved in, you know, but also when we're dating and when we haven't made those big, bigger commitments to be with each other forever, you know, through thick and thin, we are also sussing each other out and checking it out and seeing, is this something that I can handle? Is this something that makes me happy? And it's like if it wasn't the right fit for this person, does it mean they weren't brave? It just means that, you know, maybe it just wasn't you guys weren't right for each other. Okay. I'm going to keep reading here. I'm going to keep reading. 'I'm confused as to why I'm being pushed to move on and heal, but was presented to her for the first time since we broke up at the bar last week'. Okay, that is a can. Using statement that feels a little bit like I think the questions is mad at the universe. The universe is pushing you to move on, but the universe also puts her in your path. Well, sometimes life's just like in life, you know what I mean? Like you see each other, especially. I'm getting a feeling you guys are like queer people. Surprise. You haven't seen each other every single goddamn day. The queer community is so small. But, you know, you're being. You're. The idea that you're being pushed to move on. You sound a little resentful. And I just want to say, I know it's really hard to move on. I really do. I'm always the person that's on my knees sobbing and pleading, Please don't leave me at some point in a breakup. Always. That's me. I'm that person. So I get it. But ultimately we have to move on for ourselves. You know, it's not and it's not a punishment to have to move on. It's like it's like, thank you. Next there, I said it. I said, okay, let me see. And why was she presented to you? And I don't know that she necessarily was presented to you. Sometimes life is just life. I don't know. You know, I understand that, like when you have a very strong spiritual perspective, nothing is just life. And I do respect that and I do inhabit that perspective sometimes. So, I don't know, maybe you guys needed to see each other for some frickin reason so that you could see that you're still not ready to be friends. Maybe that was why. Okay. 'I still very much love her and would like to know how she feels.' I think she's told you how she feels okay 'or how she's supposed to be presented to my life in the future. I would also I also would appreciate just a general vibe check on myself and whether I'm on the right path in life right now.' Yes, I would love that question at the end. That's what I pick cards on for you. You know who she's going to be in your future? I didn't pick cards on that, you know, because I just think that, you know, I just feel like you guys don't me. Who knows? Like, she doesn't sound like she's interested in that right now. So, you know, with that in mind as well, trying to give consensual tarot readings for all involved, I thought what's the really most helpful thing? Like there's a saying in Al-Anon there are you guys dare I reference Al-Anon yet again. But there's this great phrase, keep the focus on yourself. And it's so helpful during breakups, because during breakups we're so stressed out and emotional and it's so easy to become obsessed with the person who we're in a breakup with, who we feel is hurting us. But really, the most powerful and spiritual and healthy thing you can do at those moments is put the focus back on yourself. So I pick three cards for like, what's going on with you right now? You're torn up right now. You just got triggered seeing your ex. You aren't in therapy, you're dealing with your anxious attachment style and all that other stuff that you possibly getting in the way of you having healthy relationships. The very first card I got for you is the seven of swords. Okay? So just, you know that that's not the entirety of this reading. You got other cards that I'm going to talk about them. You got good cards. But it's important that this this 1/1 came up, the seven of swords. There's something about this. It's a mental card, and it's kind of dishonest, right? So there's something dishonest going on here. And I don't think that you're trying to be dishonest. I think that you are maybe in a state of mental confusion right now and can't see straight. And, you know, it's it's hard to look at ourselves. Right. And it's really easy to blame people. But I think that the dishonesty is the blame. Right. And trying to find reasons why why the ex is bad for having left the relationship or bad for not wanting to have coffee with you. Right. Like they're just a person living their life and making their decision so that seven of swords, you know, the more that you like, as long as you spend time kind of like accusing her of being, you know, not brave or however you're feeling about it. The more you do that, you are imprisoning yourself mentally. Okay, so there's an antidote for that. And it comes in the form of the very next card you got the four of swords. The four of swords. It's like a peace of mind letting go. Meditation I'm reading right now with the Rachel Truths, true heart, intuitive tarot, and the image is this woman who's just like sitting in the lotus position. She's sort of hovering above the ground. There are four swords around her, there's crows flying over her head. And I just feel like it's this beautiful image of, like, you know, letting go of negativity, like sinking into yourself, putting this focus on yourself, calming your mind. The four of swords in the top deck is called truth. And what is the truth? It's like. It's like an agreement to let go after there's been a battle or a war, right? It's an agreement to move on. This is what you need. And then what you get for that is the two of wands, which is another thing about like moving on, especially in this deck. It's this person who looks really mystical. They're wearing this robe with flames all over it and hovering, but they're holding their hand out and hovering above their hand is the earth, right? It's the globe. And they're looking at it and it's cross, which is two lines. And I just think this is an image of freedom. Like this person is so free. There are stars erupting all over them, all around. They're looking at the earth going like, What's next for me? Where in the world do I want to go? You know, it's a it's a very it's a portal. And it even has all these concentric sort of ovals embedded in the card that looks like there is a portal. So, you know, you need to drop the defensiveness, drop, you know, the hurt feelings or just like, you know, when you feel yourself having these these accusatory. Blamey, hurt feelings, just like love yourself and be like, oh, man, I'm so hurt right now. It's so easy to be angry, right? It's so easy to be angry. But what can you do to cool your mind? What can you do to get into that form of sword's place where you're like, I'm just in my space that my ex is in their space with two different people. We have two different destinies. I'm moving on deeper into my own destiny. With the two of wands, I have the whole world available to me. The world is so much bigger than just this person and whatever our dynamic was. So I hope that's helpful. I really, really do. I wish you so much luck. I really believe in, you know, the whole theory of attachment styles. I've experienced them in my in my life. I've been on all different angles of them and and had different experiences of it. So I just wish you so much luck and and yeah, do a really do a big if you're listening and it's still the new moon in. Leo Do a really big intention around this Leo Rules of romance and relationships play freedom, sex, sets of intentions. Okay, now I'm going to go back in the room. I'm going to see who is here. Lena or Helen. Helen or Lena. Helene.

Querent: Oh, my God. I can't believe you chose me now.

Michelle Tea: Oh, my goodness. I'm so happy that you have such great accents. Now, how can I help you? Evening. Thank you so.

Querent: Much. That might be the first thing that I have to apologize to, to the lovely people here, because my accent might be a little thick, but bear with me.

Michelle Tea: No, no. I can totally understand you.

Querent: Oh, well, um, what I wanted to ask the tarot tonight was a question about a guy I have been talking to for quite a while now, and he he has kind of like, I repeat it a little bit, and I'm just a little confused on whether I should like maybe pursue talking to him, like maybe not the relationship itself, but just like finding closure, okay. Because that's something that I usually struggle with. Like I have a very hard time with things not ending very clearly and I know that that's something I should work with at work around I for for context, maybe it would be useful to say that I am a critical person in this.

Michelle Tea: Probably want to work all of this out intellectually.

Querent: Yes, yes. Yes. I am a Taurus sun, Virgo rising and a Capricorn moon.

Michelle Tea: Oh, you're awesome. Okay, I get it. Okay, you're earth. Okay, so. So are you suggesting, like, you want to know, what would it look like if you contacted this person to be like, Hey, I'm feeling the vibe change. I just want to, like, have a conversation about it so we can just, like, you know, say goodbye. We need to say goodbye, but not go see each other, that kind of thing.

Querent: Yes. But something else that I think it's important around this is that I am well, this is a very this is very happy news, because I just recently got granted a scholarship to study my masters degree, my graduate degree in the UK.

Michelle Tea: Congratulations.

Querent: Thank you so much. Thank you, Michelle. And it's something that I have worked for for a while now and so I will be living in London for a year. And so so there's a part of me that's kind of questioning, not only because I know that if I contact this person because he hasn't like ghosted me completely, completely, but he has like, you know, sporadically send some messages. But I can sense the energy is different and it's different since he it's kind of our long distance relationship. And he came to see me like a month or so ago and after that I sensed that energy shift. So I am kind of wondering if I should like maybe not talk to him like just, you know, find closure on my own because I know that if I reach out to him, he will probably just say like, no, everything is fine. I don't know what you're talking about. You know, like.

Michelle Tea: Well, it's like you're expecting him to gaslight you. Yeah, that would be very nice. And hopefully, you know, he can. I mean, I understand people can be. Defensive denial or just, you know, we'll we'll do anything to avoid a challenging conversation. I get it. But you can also give them the benefit of the doubt that would be on. I mean, does he seem like someone who's honest with you in the past or do they seem like someone who's kind of it?

Querent: No, he has always been like so open and not at all a boy then. So that's why I'm maybe wondering if something actually happened and he's not he's not being a horrible person, you know, and making sure I'm okay.

Michelle Tea: Well, okay, here's my first one. I'm going to. So now hold on, though. If you don't if you don't reach out to him, are you basically going to let this this kind of connection kind of fade away? That like.

Querent: Yeah, I think that I would just, like, maybe write him a message saying that, you know, I think that the I we can both acknowledge that things have changed and I am not I don't want to to to continue on that path. So if you want, we can we can keep being friends. But I am moving on like I think I would like send at least a message to let him know that I am moving on because I don't like to ghost either.

Michelle Tea: But so what, what are you torn between? Because it's that that seems like. So the first question, the first idea would be more of a question like, hey, what's going on? It feels like it feels like the energy has changed. And I'm curious where you're at. And then the second kind of option would be like, Hey, I've noticed that the energy has changed. I just want to say, you know, no harm. Carry on. Best wishes.

Querent: Exactly. Okay.

Michelle Tea: Okay, we'll see what you look like if you kind of open it up, if you allow if you present it more as a conversation and as a question, what does that look like versus what does it look like? If you were just like me, this energy feels different. I don't think I like it. But, you know, no hard feelings. Have a great life. Thank you. Okay, let me see what it looks like here. I think it looks better. They're very similar, you know, because either one of those conversations could provoke the same. You know, if this is a person who's going to be in denial, both of those kind of approaches could trigger that. But I feel that it's different for you. It's a different approach for you. I like the better. The way it looks like it has better cards is being more direct and saying like, Hey, I think that because this is true, like if if they were to say like, oh, wow, I just realized like, do you want to okay. I guess what I want to say is, do you want to be with this person?

Querent: Oh, well, that's a really good question because I. I really think I did. But that energy shift. Yeah, I was I was not so sure because I really, really don't appreciate people being, you know, like giving me mixed signals.

Michelle Tea: Absolutely. Oh, totally. So so if the if for some reason this person is like, oh, man, you could tell. I got really scared. Like, if they end up being honest and being like, I really like you. I'm sorry that I did that. You know, I don't want to be like that. Will you give me another chance? Would you say, like, okay.

Querent: I think I would.

Michelle Tea: Yeah. Well, listen, that seems like the three cards you have for, like, opening the door to a conversation. Like you get the three of cups, which is it's abundance. It's beautiful. It's a very it's a heart card. It's mercury and cancer. And mercury is the planet of communication. And cancer is like very deeply emotional. So, you know, it's a real emotional conversation that you would be having. You also have that's the sun in Capricorn, the power of discourse, the power card. So I think that, you know, there's something really powerful for you kind of bringing this up, like you're not going to be at the mercy of this person's whim. I feel like a lot of times I think especially women do that they kind of let the man's energy direct the relationship and call the shots. But you're like, no, I'm an equal player in this dynamic, and I'm going to say, Hey, something has shifted. It feels weird to me. I don't really like it. What's going on, you know? And you also have and that's really powerful and strong for you. I like it. And you're an Earth sign, so boom, it's very good. And then you have the Ace of Swords, which is a whole new cycle of communication. So this looks really interesting to me, you know, now oppose as opposed to, you know, not saying something, right? You get the eight of disks, which is sign in Virgo. It's prudence. It's like, oh, I'm going to be very careful. I'm going to play very, very carefully and be very self-protective. Right. There's nothing wrong with being self-protective or prudent. But I do think that when we are drawing ourselves into the world of romance, we do have to be a little bit vulnerable. We do have to take chances if we're always just buttoned up and self-protective. We don't get closer to people. We don't you know, the relationship doesn't grow. The next card that comes up is the nine of disks, which is another Virgo card. It's Mercury. And I'm sorry, it's Venus in Virgo and it's called gain. And this is not a bad card. You know, this is like, you know, in a sense, you'll be fine either way. But then your final card is the hermit. And the hermit is really a like a card. Like, I really have located the hermit as a breakup card. So to me, this just feels like, you know, if you don't if you if you if you approach it that other way and be like, okay, goodbye. There's no invitation to be vulnerable. There's no invitation to talk, to think, think about things differently, to give, to give him the opportunity to express himself, which he might squander. Right. He might totally squander that beautiful gift that you'd be giving him, you know, to be able to open up. But I think it's still really great for you. I feel like it leaves you in a more powerful place to just approach the situation really honestly. There's something a little dishonest about being like, Okay, well, I've noticed that this is changed, so I'm going to go because, you know, you guys, you guys are both in it together in a sense, right? So it's like it kind of it's like, you know, it's, it's you're doing him a kindness by giving him the opportunity to explain himself. And I think you're going to feel better about it. Does that make sense?

Querent: No, absolutely. It makes total sense. And yeah, I think you're you're very right when you say that I should give him the benefit of the doubt, not only because of how I know him previously, but but also because, like we are in this together. And I maybe it's like at least like a courtesy, right? Like.

Michelle Tea: You know, I really feel like so many relationships, like rise or fall based on their ability to handle a direct conversation, you know? So if you guys are going to be anything to each other moving forward, this could lay a really nice foundation for that. You know, and it's a good skill to have. You know, if you go forward and end up dating like other people to just be able to say like, hey, this isn't meeting my needs. And I'm just wondering, like, you know, have you noticed that you've pulled back? Like, what is what's going on for you that's so ballsy. It's really cool.

Querent: It's amazing. And Michelle, I just wanted to say before before I say goodbye that I am actually trying to study tarot with the book. And I'm trying to do that like one card a day. And I read that the chapter of the book, and I write my thoughts. I mean, and I'm so happy on that journey. And, you know, the card that was up for me today to study was the death card. So I've been thinking about this whole idea of how you have to to understand change and transformation of yourself or situations you are in. So I think it complements itself with your reading very nicely.

Michelle Tea: I love that so much. Oh, thank you. And I wish you so much luck in everything you're doing. Your tarot journey, your romantic journey, your school journey, all of it.

Querent: Oh, you're amazing. Michelle, thank you so much for your help.

Michelle Tea: You have a good night. Holy God, Zoe. Thank you. I'm seeing that you like the book, too. It means a lot, you guys. Thank you for picking up my book. Mornin Tarot. For sharing it, reading it, enjoying it, all of it. It means a lot. I really appreciate it. It's nice to have written. I've written a lot of books and it's nice to write one that has like a practical application. It actually teaches something like, that's really, that's cool. So I'm really happy about that. Oh, I wanted to tell you guys something. So you know how your magic has a patriarch and it's really fun. We're doing a new thing with the patriarchy and there's a lot of different levels to enter the patriarchy. You don't have to pay a lot of money every month. There's really there's there's minimal amounts. Also, it might even be a dollar. But don't quote me, there are theories. Yeah, I think Vera knows. But we're going to do a thing first. Thursday, every month the write in questions will be all for patriarchy. All patriarchy, folks. I'm still going to be doing it. Equal amount of people, you know, in in the room lives. That's not going to change. But I'm going to be pulling the, you know, the direct message questions from the patriarchy once a month. So if you want to just up your chances of getting those questions in there, that might be a way to do it. Oh, my God. Christina loves the chair. Astrology. Thank you for being a part of our patriot. And every. Oh, my God. Thank you. Every month around the new moon, I take three cards for every astrological sign to see how the new moon will affect them. The full moon and then a card, you know, just to kind of take you out and integrate all that information. So so yeah, there's, there's really fun stuff as well as really deep dives into the tarot. So cool. Okay. Okay, moving on. I'm going to grab another person here. Oh, my God. Xana. Hello, my cousin. Hey.

Querent: It's so good to talk to you again.

Michelle Tea: It's really nice to talk to you. Also, how can I help you this evening?

Querent: I have hopefully just a quick question, but I was seeing someone for the last few months and things sort of just ended kind of abruptly. And I think that that's the right move. But I also, you know, just like having second thoughts about it and what the tarot said about whether I should try to like fix this relationship or just like, yeah.

Michelle Tea: All right. So since you've already made a move of ending it, I'm going to see, like, what does it look like for you to stay stay with that energy and stay with that decision of having, like, pulled your energy out of that connection? What does that look like to have to just process that but stay on that path. Versus. What does it look like to reconsider? And I can't imagine that that would be just dashing right back to that person, but maybe more sitting with like, you know, what about it wasn't good. What about it? Like, where where were you being if you were being, you know, to I don't know, like where did your did you end it? Sounds like.

Querent: It just sort of ended. I think it would be a long story. But I feel like the the way to go back would be to just have another conversation. Yeah. Okay. So you either have a conversation or just have any more conversations.

Michelle Tea: Cool to talk or to never talk again. Okay. So just keeping on, there's those cards and talking to this person. Wow. This is really this looks like an intent. This looks kind of intense. I'll tell you what I see. So for staying on your path, right. And not not talking to this person, it's the eight of desks is the first thing that comes up. And again, that's that prudence. That's that's self-protective. I mean, so interesting because there's something you have something in common with the reading that just happened. Right. And she also got that prudence card for like kind of not engaging. And, you know, it is self-protective and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just, you know, just depends on the situation if it warrants it or not. If that self-protection is helpful or not, the next card is the ace of wands, which would suggest like, well, that's great, actually. Like you started a new cycle for yourself. You know, you did something that was a little self-protective. And now you're on a new cycle with a lot of energy, a lot of self-focus. But then you get the disappointment card, the five of cups. So there's something lingering there. There's something about about just letting it go that isn't necessarily going to sit. Well, now, if you do kind of have the conversation, the first card you get is the two of cups, which is love. And it's another of these cancer cards. It's so similar to the last person. It's funny because they got the three of cups, which was a cancer card. So there's emotion there and there's kind feelings and goodwill. There's also the sixth. Discourse is next, which would suggest that that there's actually a really positive outcome to having a conversation like something that feels really grounding and like, like absolutely the right thing. But then you get the ten of swords. So I'm confused. So I'm really confused about which direction to go. And I still it's so funny. It's like, it's like having the conversation is higher risk, high reward, you know, it's like if you don't have the conversation, you'll be fine. You'll go on with your life. And there is a lingering something there, you know. And if you do have a conversation, it looks really big and beautiful, but then it looks painful. So I wonder if it's like there's just something that needs to be played out with this person, what's their sign?

Querent: And I think Cancer isn't that July. Yeah.

Michelle Tea: Yeah, that is. What is your sign?

Querent: Aquarius.

Michelle Tea: Oh, my. I'm very Aquarius. Okay. I mean, you know, I wonder if there is just I mean, sometimes that ten of swords can come up when like something. I mean, it's the best case scenario. Okay, I'll give you the best case scenario. Best case scenario of of talking to him, looking at these three cards is that like something gets unearthed, okay? Something gets under like a pattern, a presumption, a behavior, an attitude, something gets unearthed that that contributed somehow to what happened to the drift. Right. And that has to be faced and that's painful, but it's absolutely time for it to be faced. It's a turn, right? So I don't know. It's like you end up sort of having to face one of your patterns that isn't great in relationships. If he's having to face that, maybe you both do. That's the best case scenario. And then because with the ten, once you've faced it, you can start to heal from it and figure it out. The worst case scenario, of course, with that is that it would seem like everything is great and then the whole thing happens again. You know what I mean?

Querent: That's happened before. That's what I was going to say. It's like we had this conversation and so this time I was like. This is stupid. Why are you still doing this?

Michelle Tea: Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, well, that actually explains it then. That really explains it. You know, that disappointment card for not talking to him just might be the melancholy that you have to experience at something not working out, especially something that it sounds like you gave a person multiple chances right then it didn't work out for them, so it makes sense to feel a little bit. It makes sense to feel a little bit, you know, sad or disappointed with this decision. But, you know, that will fade as everything does. Is this person, like hella charismatic or something?

Querent: I mean, sometimes, like, I think that, you know, the there's a. Lot like very good on paper. I think, like really well-matched in terms of like kind of checks, all the boxes or whatever. But I, you know, we were talking about attachment styles before and I used to be very anxious and now I'm not. Have like really worked through all of that. And I foster a. Dismissive avoidance which, you know, like it's just not fun. I think it is very disappointed by so many interactions because. You know, he's just like. Not in it. And then he'll be. Like, But now I'm so in it. I think about you all the time and I'm like, And then what?

Michelle Tea: Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, no. If you already, if you're like, I see that pattern, you know, I see that love success with pattern already then. Now it's just telling you what you already know and it's telling you to like, you know, with that ace of wands, like keep that focus on yourself like you are doing. You know, the prudence card can be really beautiful because it's, you know, the image I'm looking at right now are these leaves growing around, curling around these big, beautiful flowers. And so, like, that's the energy. It's like you're this big, beautiful flower and you get to put your wallet. You going to put your leave around yourself so that your petals stay like nice and fresh for, you know, whoever ends up being truly worthy of them. You know, in the meantime, you're the ace of wands. You're moving forward, you're processing the disappointment. Don't let the disappointment become global. You know what I mean? Don't let it be. Don't write a story about it like, well, this will always happen, etc.. You know, that's the risk with that disappointment card. Like it makes sense to feel let down, but try not to globalize it. Does that make sense?

Querent: Yeah, absolutely. And I think like you're right, I definitely did already know this. But, you know, I you know, it's just sort of like fresh and it's just happened and like and I don't date very much. And so it's like, oh, here's a person, like, really sad. I am, I get just going to walk away from this but like, yeah, no, I think I am.

Michelle Tea: Yeah. Because you have standards. Absolutely. But you walk away and you wait for like somebody who has learned how to be like a truly open person in relationships. It's awesome. Yeah. Good for you. Awesome.

Querent: Thank you so much.

Michelle Tea: You're welcome. Xana, it's so nice to see a little face in that little icon.

Querent: So great to talk to you.

Michelle Tea: Bye bye. All right, you guys are going to read one more that came in. It's interesting. I want so much more information than I have with it. Okay. And you will, too. So let's all be frustrated together. Hold on. It says, 'My family has become estranged from me. I have tried and tried. This is all kinds of family, mom, stepdad, cousins. I'm not a monster. I have a happy marriage and two adorable, sweet kids. My friends have suggested it is jealousy. Is this even in my control? Do I? Do I need to just accept that they're not interested and let go?' So, wow, this is like a this is a powerful question to be to be estranged from your entire family. You know, that includes all these different people is really intense. And I kind of want to know more, right? I want to know like, well, what is the nature of the estrangement? Like, what what is the fight about? You know, what's the what's the nature of the conflict here? You know, the current says I'm not a monster and I'm sure the quiet is not even monsters arguably aren't monsters. Right? Like everybody is just like a human being, striving and trying to figure it out. Right. But but like, what is going on? Okay. Friends think it's jealousy. We're all a little monsters, etc.. Sarah, I know I am. So I picked a couple of cards, a few cards here. I said, you know, is it even in my control? Well, I mean, kind of not. Right? We can't control other people, but we can control ourselves. So what would it look like for the parent to sort of reach out to the to the people in the family and, you know, try to find common ground? Try to I don't I mean, I again, this is where I really wish I had more information because I could probably. Make better suggestions, but I'll just keep it to the tarot. And I pulled some cards with the collective tarot. I'll put images of all these decks on my Instagram after so you can see what I'm looking at. You got The Apprentice of Bones and the mentor of Bones. And what I believe that is, is the page of Pentacles and the Knight of Pentacles and then the seeker of bottles. And the secret of bottles is sort of like a like a queen of cups sort of a thing. So these are all these people, right? Which is interesting cause we're talking about, you know, things, you know, people becoming estranged from each other. I see Sophie from the chat is keeping in. I see. I feel family become a strange over boundary so often. If it seems like an unknown reason, it's because your boundary boundaries made them angry. That's just like that is really a really great possibility. I think that's really true. Boundaries can can really upset people who don't have them and aren't vested in you not having them. So, you know, these are good cards. I just want to say that, you know, The Apprentice of Bones is very grounded. He's very smart. He's actually like a deer in a suit. He's very handsome. He's like learning. He's like he's he's in this sort of, like, lovely, you know, library classroom. He's like at Harvard. He's like a deer and it's in a suit at Harvard. Okay. And then the next guy is the mentor of Bones, and he's like a bobcat, like a really sexy bobcat with like a monocle and a suit and like an earring. He's like, Daddy, bobcat in a suit. Okay, so these are like if you bring yourself to your family, right? If you sort of put yourself out there and try, it's not about you groveling. It's really about you presenting yourself in all of your glory, you know, in your happy marriage, with your beautiful kids like you don't make apologies for yourself or for your life, right? You show up at your best. And if they don't support you being your best, maybe you want to stand yourself from them. Right? The name of this deck that presents a deer in a suit at Harvard is the collective tarot. Really sorry to tell you that it is currently out of print, but you can maybe find it second hand slash pressure the creators to make it again. It's an amazing duck. The secret of bottles is this like person who looks kind of feminine and they're like lying back there, like, floating with their heads behind themselves, and their eyes are closed. They have this very, like, really lovely smile on and there's a big like bottle with a note in it, kind of in their chest, like their heart chakra. And so, you know, this person is very self contained. They're happy with themselves, they're content. So it's like, you know, if you if you present yourself to your family and, you know, you are trying to change the dynamic, right? Trying to change the dynamic somehow you don't do it by groveling or presenting yourself as less than you don't do it by making yourself small so that they can feel big. You don't do it in any of those ways, only in healthy, beautiful ways. And I do actually think you should do it, because here's the deal. If you don't do it, if you if you you know, I put cards on, do I just accept that they're not interested and let go? The first card you have is The Lovers, which is interesting because that is a card about staying or going, about commitment in love relationships, and it does include family. So, you know, by doing that, you are saying like, okay, we're done. Like you're making a big statement, which sometimes is a great thing to do. But what follows your your big statement is disaster. That's the name for the tower cards in this deck. It's called disaster. And so it feels like, you know, I don't know. And then not right. And then at the end of that you get the seeker appears. And again that the seeker is, I believe, like a knight and keys is flames. So it's this person lighting a match in a room filled with many doors and you're like, Wow, you have a lot of options. What are you going to do? Where are you going to go next? So here's what I think. Okay. And again, I don't I wish I had more information, but not knowing anything more than what reading Sophie says. Yes, for sure. I think you should make one last effort. Okay, of presenting yourself in all your apprentice of bones, mentor of bones, seeker of Bottle's Glory Give it one more, give it one more. Like putting yourself out there, you know? I mean, it's interesting that you're like, you know, your your friends are saying that they're jealous. It makes me wonder, have you ever have you ever asked anyone, like, what's going on? Have I done something to offend you? That's why it feels that you have hostile feelings towards me. Can you tell me why? Because I don't understand. Like, you might want to have those conversations in a really grounded, stable way. Right? And, you know, and then if it doesn't work out, you might want to shut the door on them after you feel like I've done everything I can. You know, the disaster card, you know, it's like you kind of are asking for leads. And from the tarot. So when I see something like the disaster, it's like, well, that path, it's kind of a no. But at the same time. Time, you know, making a true decision, really, really walking up to the reality that I have to accept that my family will be fully estranged from me. Of course you're going to get the disastrous part. That's painful. So I think I think that you just have to know that that's going to really hurt. And I hope that all your excellent friends and your happy marriage will be there to hold you through that as you have to. You know, there's what's really interesting is there's something that's written on the disaster card in this deck and it says lots of false beliefs. Right. And it also says destruction of lies. So, you know what what you are letting go of really is the false belief that you could be in a healthy family dynamic with these people. The lie is that like you're a monster. You know, again, I don't I don't know all the dynamics, but I'm just sussing what I can from from what you've written. So, yeah, it's going to be painful. But then I do feel like that seeker of Keys is really beautiful and hopeful, lighting a match in a room with lots of doors. It's like, where will you go next? Will you know who will be your chosen family? Where will you go for that? That kind of comfort and that kind of love? Zoe says it might hurt for a while, but you're okay. Just be you and you'll attract your chosen people. I think there's so much truth to that. But there's something about those three cards. I think maybe you do want to just see. I do think you do want to give it one last kind of try again without compromising yourself. Right? Just just just to really see if you can't get to the heart of it and something something transformative could maybe happen. I don't know.

Okay, guys, we're done here. This was incredible. I want to let you all know that I'm going to be in Brooklyn on Monday. I'm going to be at books are magic reading from my new book Knocking Myself Up. So if anybody is in the New York area, please come out. It's also going to be on YouTube live. I'm going to be in conversation with the novelist Tori Peters, who is fucking amazing. So check that out. And again, we're here every Thursday and you guys are the best. Thank you so much for trusting me, you know, with your problems. Okay. Goodnight, you guys.

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